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1 Tim 2:11-15 Subjection: Is Paul's reasoning flawed?
by Steve J in
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a woman should learn in quietness and full submission.

i do not permit a woman to teach, or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

for adam was created first, then eve.
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Context and Consistency
by DT in
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since i was born into the wts, i suffered from a lot a brainwashing before i could even read.

i had a lot of preconceived ideas before i started to read the bible.

i assumed that it was consistent, so when i came across apparent contradictions, i assumed there were reasonable explanations and even tried to make them up.
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Most people would say that practising any religion is better than not......
by JH in
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most believers think that it's better to practise any religion than to act like an animal and not practise any.. even my dad who used to dislike the jw's when he was alive, told me once, "you're better off going back to that religion, than not practising any religion at all".

i'm a believer like he was, but it's funny how most believers will say that practising any religion is better than not practising any.. jw's wouldn't agree, because they think that only their religion is the right one, even though a wrong religion may have a postive influence on somebody's behavior and happiness.. the only thing a jw looks at is the carrot "eternal life".

they won't look at the good that may come out of practising another religion.. after my jw experience, i won't go to any other religion.
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Is there a Universal Issue? Did God cheat....yes and I can prove it.
by oompa in
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gen. 3:5 for god knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like god, knowing good and bad.".

(genesis 3:22) 22 and jehovah god went on to say: "here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite,".

gen 3:22and the lord god said, behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:i awoke this morning and had an epiphiny.
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So what would you find if you only read the Bible?...........
by oompa in
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i tried this a few years ago.

i read the gospels right before the memorial.

jesus, i noticed, did not answer some questions his friends asked him.
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Without using the Bible.........
by searcher in
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.......prove that the bible is true.. .
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The Last Days according to Dead Sea Scroll
by greek in
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according to dead sea scrolls 4qmmt(4q397 - 399) the last days transpired during centuries i bc/i ad.

here there is a excerp of the dead sea sroll:"(5) for by reason of these .

because of] violence and fornication [some] (6) places have been destroyed.
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John19:25-27 Who was the disciple Jesus loved?
by Steve J in
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hi guys,.

i've just been reading through john's account of jesus' crucifixion and came accross the following verse;.

near the cross of jesus stood his mother, his mothers sister, mary the wife of clopas and mary magdalene.
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Something(s) I always wondered about...
by KenseiShimonzu in
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was,if jehovah was going to bring about armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already knew better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.. he even allowed him complete control over the earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know?

no human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body).

another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "jehovah" the supreme creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that he created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point.
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What JW Beliefs Did You...
by Abandoned in
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what jw beliefs did you make up for your own sanity?.

for me it was regarding the flood.

instead of believing that god had destroyed millions of people, i imagined that because of all the violence, by the time the flood came, the only people besides noah and his family that were still alive were the nephilim.